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Katie Reveals Unseen Detail From Tamra Judge & Ryan Boyajian’s Face-Off: “Holy Sh-t”

Hear Katie Ginella and Tamra Judge unpack the dramatic dinner party showdown involving Jennifer Pedranti's fiancé, Ryan Boyajian.

By Sophie Vilensky

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On Season 18, Episode 12 of The Real Housewives of Orange County, Tamra Judge came face to face with fellow 'Wife Jennifer Pedranti's fiancé Ryan Boyajian during a dinner party at Katie Ginella's house. While fans saw the situation play out in real time, it was extra intriguing to hear what Katie thought of the face-off after the fact. And she did have thoughts.

"I learned pretty close to when we were having these couples over for dinner that Ryan had talked a lot of bad things about [Tamra's husband Eddie Judge] on a podcast," the former golf reporter explained during a recent interview at Bravo Headquarters. "[Ryan and Eddie] showed up and immediately it was, 'I don't want to talk to you.' And it came to a head at the dinner table."

Katie then reflected on the showdown and revealed an unseen detail. "At one point, my husband and I were holding hands under the table like, 'holy shit,'" she shared.

All in all, "That was a really tough dinner for me," Katie concluded. "So maybe next time I won't have all that China on my dinner table, and I will not take, like, six hours to bake that cake that nobody could enjoy."

Split of Tamra Judge, Katie Ginela, and Ryan Boyajian

Tamra Judge reveals new details about her conflict with Ryan Boyajian 

Tamra looked back at the dramatic dinner in an interview of her own, telling BravoTV.com that while she and Jen "made up at the reunion last year," any good will she had toward her (and Ryan) went out the door when the couple allegedly "started doing podcasts and interviews." 

"I would've been OK if they didn't bring my husband into it, Cut Fitness into it. [And] they were reposting stuff about my son — my son doesn't even know him," Tamra claimed. "It's disgusting. He was just saying horrible things about us."

"It's such a little bitch thing to do," she added. "So, I let him know it."

What did Ryan say about Tamra and Eddie Judge on a podcast?

Tamra was seemingly referencing Ryan's October 2023 appearance on the AllAboutTRH Podcast. Jenn recently shared the episode in question to her Instagram Story, writing in-part, "He went on ONE podcast and spoke his truth." 

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