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Kathie Lee Gives Ramona Singer Some Sound Life Advice

The Today show host shares a run-in she had with her fellow winemaker.

By Sarv Kreindler Mar 25, 2014, 3:28 PM ET

Kathie Lee Gifford stopped by Entertainment Weekly Radio this week to talk about her new wine, Gifft, and the subject turned to another famous New York winemaker: our very own Ramona Singer, of course.

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Kathie Lee described a run-in she recently had with Ramona at a restaurant where she was cornered by the Real Housewives of New York City star seeking some advice. The only problem? Kathie had no idea who she was! But once the introductions got sorted, Kathie was more than happy to share the advice she gave her.

"When I've been going through some heavy-duty things, and you see your name in the paper, and you're on the cover, or in the tabloids, you tend to get very small-minded when you think that's all anybody's talking about or thinking about," she says. "When I turned 60 this last summer, somebody gave me something that said, 'When I was 20, I thought that everybody was talking about me. When I was 40, I said I don't care that everybody is talking about me. When I turned 60, I realized that nobody was talking about me.' And she hasn't got there yet."

Good advice but, we admit, the run-in has got us fantasizing about one thing: Turtle Time with the dream team of Kathie Lee, Hoda, Ramona…and lots and lots of wine. Make it so, Today Show Fourth Hour!